What hurdles lie before service agencies on their quest to become CRM
outsourcers? I recently posed four questions on this topic to executives
at eight leading teleservices agencies: Wes O'Brien, President, Precision
Response Corp.; Mike Littell, President, EDS
Customer Relationship Management; Eric Greenberg, President and CEO, Millennium
Teleservices; Ruth M. O'Brien, Senior Vice President, TeleServices, Associates
Commerce Solutions; Timothy F. Kowalski, President, iCT
Connected-Touch.com L.L.C.; Roger LeFevre, CEO, Target
TeleServices.com; Robert Scott Moncrieff, Senior Vice President of
Marketing, SITEL Corp.; and Basil
Bennett, President, eCRM, Convergys
Corp. You will find their answers to two of the questions I posed
here. The other two were published in the April
2000 issue. I believe you will find their answers quite informative on
where teleservices agencies are heading in providing CRM services for
their clients.
Q: What are the technology hurdles that must be overcome for:
A) in-house CRM and B) outsourced CRM?
Wes O'Brien: Outsourced CRM is the smartest and most
cost-effective way for companies to proceed. We believe this to be true
because:
- Outsourced providers are focused solely on CRM. Therefore, their
systems are managed and operated more efficiently.
- The technology used by outsourced providers can be leveraged across
all clients, thereby making it cost-effective for their clients.
- As experts, outsourced providers are leaders in the industry, thus
staying ahead of the technology curve. This results in even more
efficient, state-of-the-art systems for clients and provides for even
higher levels of customer satisfaction.
Mike Littell: A) In-house CRM: In-house, companies have
the advantage of an intimate knowledge of their legacy systems. Some
companies building a CRM system in-house suffer from trying to reinvent
the wheel in areas where they do not necessarily have strong expertise,
such as data warehousing or analytics, and wind up with programs limited
by a somewhat narrow view of the potential for CRM. Outsourcers bring a
different perspective -- an objective eye and a wealth of previous
experience.
B) Outsourced CRM: A company needs a clear strategy for its call
center, and a goal for what it will accomplish for its business. Without
this clear strategy, a call center cannot be successful -- regardless of
whether the solution was built in-house or outsourced. What is sometimes
called a technology problem is often the result of a mismatch between
systems and poorly communicated expectations.
Integration with current legacy or back-office systems is difficult
without access to a client's technical human resources. Integration is
often the most underestimated concept of the call center technology.
Outsourcers are often in a better position to leverage their existing
bandwidth to ramp up a project quickly, and can typically take advantage
of the built-in scalability of their systems.
Teleservices face many of the same issues as any outsourcer. It takes a
continuing investment in the e-market, in evolving database and data
warehousing requirements, and in meeting standards set by COPC.
Teleservices also need to have contingencies to manage capacity overflow
across contact centers and have the ability to switch volumes of calls
across contact centers to keep service levels up during peak demand
periods.
Eric Greenberg: A) In-house CRM: Integration of many
disparate systems and personnel which were never designed to work together
is a difficult hurdle to overcome.
B) Outsourced CRM: There are none. A good outsource vendor
should be able to integrate all functions of the existing systems into one
portal which seamlessly blends them together.
Ruth M. O'Brien: A) In-house CRM: Companies must take
into account the initial and ongoing financial investment, available IT
and human resources, ongoing training costs, as well as diverting
resources away from the core business. There are now a wide variety of
packaged CRM choices, and a company must be able to evaluate the best CRM
applications and vendors, and dedicate the IT resources to customize the
application and maintain it. Companies must be flexible to changes in
requirements, so the solution is not obsolete before it is implemented.
B) Outsourced CRM: To manage the emerging technologies,
teleservices agencies must develop a standard platform of base call center
technology, which will allow clients to customize applications and be
flexible enough to adapt to the new technologies. To meet clients'
expectations, teleservices agencies must continue to develop systems,
applications and delivery channels that will anticipate the caller's
requirements and a system that leads the agents through to the solution.
Timothy F. Kowalski: A) In-house CRM: Companies seeking
to deploy an in-house CRM solution must identify technologies that can be
successfully integrated. Selecting a contact management, database and
e-mail management system that is integrated with a voice and Internet
solution is extremely difficult. Many technology vendors are expanding
their traditional product set space and overlapping with other vendors.
This makes selecting and integrating the appropriate technologies an
extremely challenging initiative.
B) Outsourced CRM: A major hurdle in outsourcing a CRM solution
is the integration of technologies with in-house back-end solutions.
Selecting an outsourced CRM vendor with systems integration experience and
technology partnerships is important. Additionally, it is critical that
the outsourced CRM solution be integrated, allowing for optimum
productivity for customer service representatives (CSRs), which ultimately
controls costs and improves service.
Roger LeFevre: Entities that handle their own customer
interactions are seemingly at an advantage when it comes to interfacing or
integrating new technology with legacy systems, because their focus is on
single-enterprise CRM solutions, and the linkage to newly developed and
developing technologies is critical for interoperability across the
enterprise. Legacy equipment suppliers have the incentive to retain their
customer bases by adapting and upgrading systems to perform across the
communications continuum, and to link with emerging technologies.
Nevertheless, these proprietary concepts may hinder the
"openness" concept being touted by so many in the systems arena
-- continuing investments in any type of closed architecture flies in the
face of the connectivity.
Outsourced organizations have compounded technology issues where it is
necessary to report client activity from within their contact/interaction
centers, where the outsourcer, acting as host, has to deliver data to a
client's incompatible system. Moreover, multiply this problem over varied
clients, rather than dealing with single-enterprise constraints, and the
outsourcer can have insurmountable difficulties. Electronic Data
Interchange (EDI), comprehensive reporting, real-time file access and
multiuser environments are challenging, at best, for the well-managed,
strategically designed systems organization -- add an outsourced provider
that is not symbiotic with a client and you have the makings of a
disastrous relationship from the start.
Whether built (in-house) or bought (outsourced), CRM applications must
be well designed to fit technically (whether integrated or interfaced)
across the entire enterprise. That is entirely possible whichever model is
employed. It boils down to virtually crafted perfection.
Robert Scott Moncrieff: Most organizations face unique
challenges in this area. SITEL is in the process of migrating to a common
set of operating platforms so that the company can better perform global
work for its clients and more cost-effectively replicate its processes
throughout its network of call centers. SITEL Corporation has designated
Siebel as its preferred technology platform. An object-based system,
Siebel supports SITEL's goal of a common system while still providing a
solution that can be customized to meet each customer's unique needs.
Siebel contains all the necessary elements to enable a true eCRM service
offering. Siebel interfaces with Oracle as the database engine, and
Genesys for the computer-telephony integration. This provides the
flexibility and continued return from SITEL's investment in existing
switch and dialer platforms.
Basil Bennett: The technology hurdles are the same. An
outsourcer can be simpler for organizational conflict reasons, but the
work is the same, so the supporting structure is the same.
Q: Which implementation of CRM is faster and more
cost-effective?
Wes O'Brien: Again, we feel that outsourcing CRM activity is by
far the most cost-effective and efficient implementation.
Mike Littell: If there were an easy answer to this question,
there wouldn't be so many IT consultants getting into the CRM business!
There are so many variables to consider, perhaps a better question is:
What situations are more appropriate for in-house CRM and which situations
are better suited for outsourcing?
Even for a relatively modest program where the risks are lower, you
need to ask if you are straying from your core competency by dedicating
resources to building a sophisticated CRM system. Some e-tailers, for
example, may be brilliant masters of the Internet, but many of them are
learning the hard way about the complexities of integrating fulfillment
and distribution operations with the front end. Remember that a poorly
executed call center reflects on the whole company, and the ultimate cost
of poorly executed CRM can be high customer churn.
High-volume, complex programs servicing multiple product lines are good
candidates for leveraging an outsourcer's ability to scale operations for
peaks and valleys in demand.
Eric Greenberg: The fastest and most cost-effective
implementation of CRM is integrating all forms of communication with the
client. Outsourced CRM vendors can quickly and efficiently combine voice,
e-mail and Web queries through one portal.
Ruth M. O'Brien: An outsourcer -- The outsourcer has made the
initial technology investment and the costs and time are leveraged across
multiple clients. Outsourcers establish many strategic partnerships with
many application providers for the integration of the specific
technologies and CRM solutions.
Working with an outsourcer, the client can define the CRM solution
through the scope of the outsourcing service-level agreement. Technology
and application enhancements can be defined and designed to meet the
clients' long- and short-term needs. Companies can leverage an
outsourcer's automation, technology and the skill sets needed to support
their CRM solution, which can offer cost efficiencies. Additional benefits
include: a more robust CRM solution, decreased implementation timeline,
decreased implementation costs, customizable solutions upon request and
decreased training times.
Timothy F. Kowalski: Outsourced CRM is a faster and more
cost-effective solution to implement. Outsourcing provides a scalable,
affordable solution utilizing proven systems, skilled resources and
continuously developed and improved training, quality assurance and
operations methodologies to ensure that the most consistent levels of
customer support are provided, across all communication channels.
Roger LeFevre: As a general proposition, the speed to deployment
of full-blown enterprise CRM is a function of the groundwork that has been
laid by the organization in readying for use of CRM applications. If the
model is to "own your own," then decisions will be made that
are, perhaps, different than those that would be made if outsourcing were
the preferential mode. For example, a CRM vendor may convince a client
that its application(s) would be best integrated with existing
infrastructure, and operated in-house, rather than being contracted to a
service provider. That may conflict with the fact that the CRM deployment
is not conducive to the organization's core business, or that the
prerequisite competencies do not exist presently within the entity. In
other words, like the foolish lawyer that represents himself, so goes the
organization that attempts to care for that which it is not confidently
able. Similarly, to learn as you go and likely make mistakes will
counteract cost savings that might be realized from self-deployment. When
in doubt, call an expert -- if that means someone to retrofit inside or an
outsourced provider, speed to implementation and cost are relative
factors. Ladies and gentlemen, choose your weapons.
Robert Scott Moncrieff: Outsourcing definitely has advantages,
especially when you consider the important elements of labor and
time-to-market. Outsourcing firms have years of experience working with
the best technology, just as internal operations do. The difference is
that outsourced providers' skill sets are better in the recruiting,
hiring, training and managing of human resources. Without a well-trained
human link, true CRM will not happen. In addition, internal change of such
a significant nature is tough to make happen -- often because of existing
corporate structures, departmental rivalries and politicking -- and makes
outsourcing an attractive option.
Basil Bennett: Outsourcing, for two reasons: We have already
moved up the very steep CRM learning curve, and we may miss internal
political bickering as former silos are abandoned in favor of a
customer-centric approach.
As you can see after reading these insights, establishing a good CRM
program can be a long and difficult road if you decide to set out alone.
If you find you need help, there are outsourcing partners out there that
can help you provide the best possible service for your customers: contact
them before your customers become your competition's customers.
Sincerely,
Rich Tehrani
Group Publisher
rtehrani@tmcnet.com
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